Vた-あとで or Noun + の後: “After doing” |
V-た + 上で "After (carefully) doing…” |
-Only expressing the order without any emphasis |
Noun + の上(で) |
-It doesn't matter how long it takes from first action to next action because there are intervening actions before doing the final action. |
(Clause) 上での + Noun |
V-た後で = Even if it's in the past tense has nothing to do with the tense of the whole sentence. The tense of the sentence is decided in the main (2nd) clause. |
-First verb is properly done in preparation for the second verb so there is a special relationship between the two verbs. |
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ーFirst clause often contains words that describe confirmation or procedures. |
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❗️❗️Note: で in (Noun + の上で) can be omitted |
卒業したあとで、日本に来た。 I came to Japan after graduation. |
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シャワーを【浴びる】あびたあと、晩御飯を作る。 I will make dinner after I take a shower. |
V-た + 上で "After (carefully) doing…” |
帰った後で、電気をつけました。 (Right after) After I get home, I switched on the lights. |
説明書】せつめいしょをよく読んだ上で、使ってください。Read the instruction manual carefully before using. |
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トラブルの【原因】げんいんを【調べた】しらべた上で、上司に報告します。After investigating the cause of the trouble, report it to your boss. |
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There are times when てから makes more sense to use than 多後で: |
Noun + の上で |
1. Instructions in a recipe book |
❗️❗️Note: で in (Noun + の上で) can be omitted |
2. When you buy something from the vending machine |
【金額】きんがくを【確認】かくにんの上(で)、サインをお願いします。 |
3. Medical procedures |
Please check the amount and sign it. (After checking the amount, please sign.) |
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家族と【相談】そうだんの上(で)、お【返事】へんじをいたします。We will reply to you after consulting with your family. |
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【塩】しおを振り掛けてから、スープに【掻き混ぜる】かきまぜる。 After sprinkling salt, you stir it into the soup. |
(Clause) 上での + Noun |
彼女はドアを閉めてからロックをかける。 After she closes the door, she will lock it. |
When the second clause is a noun, it becomes 上での |
お金を入れてから、ボタンを押します。 I will press the button after inserting the money. |
何日も考えた上での【決定】けっていです。 |
薬を飲んでから、休みます。 You will rest after drinking medicine. |
After days of thinking, the decision was made. |
日本人は食べてから、「ごちそうさまでした」と言います。 After eating, Japanese say, "gochisou sama deshita." |
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Noun + の後 "After the (noun)... |
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晩御飯の後でテレビを見ましょう。 Let's watch TV after dinner. |
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彼は午前8時の後で来ました。 He came to school after 8AM. |
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仕事の後で、僕と映画を見ませんか。 Won't you watch a movie with me after work? |
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VOCABS:
【決定】けってい: decision; determination
【金額】きんがく: amount of money; sum of money
説明書】せつめいしょ: (printed) instructions; manual; explanatory leaflet (pamphlet, note); description
【原因】げんいん: cause; origin; source
【調べる】しらべる: to examine; to look up; to investigate; to check up